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Ray Dalio on 2025’s real story, Trump, and what’s next

Investment legend Ray Dalio has a historian’s eye and quantitative bent that gives him a unique perspective on markets. A recent post of his reflecting on 2025 and looking at what’s ahead is a case in point.


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Tanking currencies

While everyone’s fixated on US stocks and AI, Dalio suggests that they’re missing the bigger picture. That’s because last year’s largest gains went to those betting on a collapse in the value of money and a shift away from US assets into international ones.

On the value of money, he says the US dollar fell 0.3% against the Japanese yen, 4% against the Chinese renminbi, 12% against the euro, 13% against the Swiss franc, and 39% against gold (he considers gold a currency and the second largest reserve currency behind the USD). Against gold, all the major currencies fell, but the weakest ones fell most while the strongest held up better, Dalio says. Reading between the lines, it means he considers the US and Japan among the weaker currencies and the Swiss among the stronger ones.


Source: Ray Dalio, Firstlinks

Due to the fall in the value of money, the best major investment of 2025 was gold, returning 65% in US dollar terms, and outperforming the S&P 500 index by 47% (the index returned 18%).

Because of America’s weaker currency, it made the S&P’s returns look better than they were, Dalio believes. The S&P returned 18% for a dollar-based investor, 17% for a yen-based investor, 13% for a renminbi-based investor, but only 4% for a euro-based investor, 3% for a Swiss franc-based investor, and for a gold-based investor, it returned -28%.


Source: Ray Dalio, Firstlinks

The picture for US bonds wasn’t much better. That’s because “when the value of money goes down, their real worth is lowered even as their nominal prices rise.” In 2025, 10-year US Treasury bonds returned 9% (roughly half from yield and half from price) in dollar terms, 9% in yen terms, 5% In renminbi terms, -4% in euro terms, -4% in Swiss franc terms, and -34% in gold terms. Cash in US dollars did even worse.


Source: Ray Dalio, Firstlinks

Moves away from US assets

Dalio says the other big theme from last year was investors’ moving their money out of US stocks into other markets. More specifically, in US dollar terms, European stocks outperformed American stocks by 23%, Chinese stocks outperformed by 21%, Japanese stocks outperformed by 10%, and emerging market stocks outperformed by a whopping 34%.

Meanwhile, emerging market dollar debt returned 14% and emerging market local currency debt in dollar terms returned 18%.

“Clearly, investors would have much rather been in non-US stocks than in US stocks, just as they would have preferred to be in non-US bonds than in US bonds and US cash,” Dalio says.

Drilling down on US stocks

Dalio says the strong returns from US shares, at least in US dollar terms, came from both earnings growth and an expansion in valuations on those earnings (price to earnings expansion). Breaking down the 18% total returns, earnings growth was up 12%, the P/E rose 5%, while the dividend yield contributed about 1%.

The Magnificent Seven stocks had earnings growth of 22% in 2025. Contrary to many media reports, profits from the remaining 493 companies in the S&P 500 were also healthy, up 9% year-on-year.

Revenue growth of 7% contributed the majority of the 12% in earnings growth. The rest came from a jump in profit margins.

Dalio says that means companies captured most of the earnings improvement at the expense of workers – and that’s something to keep an eye on.

What’s next for markets?

Dalio sums up 2025 as a year where just about everything went up in US dollar terms thanks largely to American policies to boost its economy, including higher government spending and lower interest rates.

He sees much of the same in 2026 though returns may be harder to come by as many assets are expensive now.

Dalio doesn’t like the prospects for US stocks or bonds. He says valuations for shares are stretched, with high P/E multiples and low credit spreads (the difference in yields on riskier bonds versus risk-free bonds). If these spreads start to rise, it would be negative for shares. So would any rise in interest rates.

Dalio’s long-term expected return for the S&P 500 is 4.7% per annum, which is low compared to the expected return from long-term government bonds of close to 5%.

But Dalio isn’t a fan of US bonds either:

“Thus far, the bond supply/demand imbalance has not been a serious problem, but a large amount of debt (nearly $10tn) will need to be rolled going forward. At the same time, it appears likely the Fed will be inclined to ease to push real interest rates down. For these reasons, debt assets look unappealing, especially at the long end of the curve, and a further steepening of the yield curve seems probable, though it seems questionable to me that the Fed’s easing will be as much as is discounted in the current pricing.”

Without saying so explicitly, Dalio strongly hints that he prefers international assets outside of the US, including equities, bonds and currencies. In his view, these assets offer a hedge against a continuing decline in the US dollar.

He also continues to like gold as a diversifier in portfolios even though he acknowledges that it may be fully priced. He’s previously said that gold doesn’t carry someone else’s liability, which makes it a strong store of value.

He’s also previously highlighted inflation-protected bonds as useful for investors seeking protection against inflation and real loss of purchasing power.

Lastly, Dalio isn’t a big fan of private assets. He says it’s notable that stimulatory moves from the US Government and central bank didn’t help venture capital and private equity in 2025:

“If one believes the stated valuations in VC and PE (which most people don't), liquidity premiums are now very low; I think it's obvious that they are likely to rise a lot as the debt these entities took on has to be financed at higher interest rates and the pressures to raise liquidity build, which would make illiquid investments fall relative to liquid ones.”

The US mid-term election risk

Last year, Trump had control of both the House of Representatives and Senate and that meant he could do what he liked. And what he did was fashion a government-directed style of capitalism that stimulated the economy and was market-friendly.

Dalio predicts that Trump will lose control of the House of Representatives at the mid-term elections in November this year. If right, that would make Trump a lame duck President and give him limited power to enact further market-friendly policies.

This is a risk that markets aren’t pricing in now but may start too as we move closer to the elections.

The long-term picture

Those familiar with Dalio will know that he views current events in the context of long-term historical cycles. He’s mapped out the last 500 years of history and quantified key factors in long-term debt cycles and, more broadly, the rise and fall of major powers.

He believes long-term debt cycles last 50-100 years, and are characterized by:

  • Short-term debt cycles of 5-10 years driven by credit expansion and contraction.
  • Over decades, each short-term cycle adds more debt.
  • Interest rates gradually fall toward zero.
  • Eventually, rates can’t be lowered further ? debt saturation.
  • Central banks turn to money printing (QE).
  • This often leads to:
    - Currency debasement
    - Asset inflation
    - Rising inequality
  • The cycle ends with a major reset (restructuring, inflation, or default).

Dalio thinks the last major debt reset happened in the 1930s and that period has echoes to what is happening today. 

It all sounds gloomy, though Dalio would call himself a realist. If he’s correct, we’re heading down a treacherous path that will bring both opportunities (think real assets) and rising risks (think the US dollar and bonds).

 

James Gruber is editor of Firstlinks.

 

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14 Comments
Peter Care
January 26, 2026

Good businesses are not speculative as kong as pay the right price. At what point in the past century has Soul Pattinson been speculative?

Russell Wadey
January 22, 2026

Yawn.
Dalio still refuses to understand how modern monetary system operate. In reality, US gov has not borrowed a dollar.
We are not on the gold standard anymore, haven't been for 55 years.
How ridiculous to compare US share returns to gold returns, which are purely speculative. What holds the price of gold up?
US shares 2025 returns were 12% earnings growth + 1% dividends. What's the problem?

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James Gruber
January 22, 2026

Russell,

Your views, based on Modern Monetary Theory, are firmly in the minority.

US Govt hasn't borrowed a dollar - really?

And I think Ray knows a thing or two about how an economy works.

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Graham W
January 23, 2026

I cannot believe Russell's response that gold is speculative. It has been a constant value of real money for over 2,000 years. With many Central Banks selling US treasuries and buying gold bullion, I cannot in any way think that is speculative. It is going for security and certainty in a world full of debt. Pity the muppets in Canberra are wasting billions on woke projects and Australia has little in gold reserves.

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David
January 25, 2026

Last time I commented on gold, I was dismissed as a "gold bug" for trying to go down that "rabbit hole". I suspect that the Australian Treasury is full of people who would agree with Russell Wadey's point of view.

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Dudley
January 24, 2026


"Pity ... Australia has little in gold reserves":

12,000t stashed below ground.

300t/y hauled up and shipped out.
At $A230,000,000 / t, $A67,000,000,000 / y.

Only worth sweating for because someone will sweat more to earn money to buy gold.

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ian Huntley
January 25, 2026

At current prices after such a rapid rise, my view is that buying gold is highly speculative. Have a look at what happened after previous post World War 11 such booms.

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Graham W
January 27, 2026

How can gold be speculative? . It is anything but the opposite. It maintains purchasing power over 2 thousand years
It is the safety belt of any portfolio. Seems to be sour grapes that missing out on maintaining purchasing power over decades is a cop out. Happy with 15 times gain since 1992 and ten times gain over 15 years. By the way, I only ever invented in gold to protect my investments. To not do so is not speculation, it is PROTECTION. Plain and simple.

Peter
January 23, 2026

Add to that mix of economic forces heading towards devaluation of the USD, which gold is a reasonable hedge against is the real threat of civil war in Minnesota. 

To blindly assume that investing in the US at the moment is not risky and MMT will rescue their economy is dangerous. 

Rob
January 25, 2026

At some point and likely closer than we expect, the reduced appetite for US Bonds will accelerate and become a tsunami. The world investment community does not like surprise after surprise after surprise, they rebalance away from Us Assets and nobody wants to be "last out the door". As the mid terms get closer, expect the behaviour to get even more erratic, hard as that may be to imagine! Own Gold!

JJ
January 25, 2026

I enjoyed reading Dalio’s book and even bought one as a gift. The reality is his firm/funds weren’t doing great but have made solid returns since he stepped down. He may be right about China one day and I hope I can see that day and cash out my Chinese investment.

Paul Howes
January 25, 2026

The only thing that I know is, I don't think anybody knows.

George Soros (Billionaire Fund Manager) holds the same view. RE : His quote. " The idea that you can actually predict what's going to happen contradicts my way of looking at the market".

To take the middle to high investment road over 20 years and don't read anything about what the market is going to do, only what it has done may minimize errors, and give an acceptable return. Remove the unknown.

Scott
January 26, 2026

The U.S. government also has the largest gold reserves in the word by a considerable margin. How does that play into Ray’s theory? Any ideas?

 

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